2026-10-11 17:12 UTC

Independent testing will determine whether Steganeur's token-choice encoding provides a reliable and practically usable covert channel in natural-looking LLM-generated text.

state: expiredheat: lowuncertainty: highconvergesscott: mediumllm-steganography covert-channels model-securityMarc Snid

What is this?

Steganeur is described in the supplied case as Rust software by Marc Snid that encodes secret messages through an LLM’s token choices, aiming to produce natural-looking carrier text. The web snippets establish that LLM-generated text can theoretically and experimentally serve as a covert channel, with capacity tied to token-distribution entropy, and that related protocols can encode messages in plausible text. However, none of the supplied results independently tests Steganeur itself, so its reliability, detectability, and practical usability remain unverified here.

Why it matters to Scott

If independently validated, Steganeur would expose a concrete way for untrusted models or agents to smuggle data through apparently benign text, extending Scott’s SiloOS and padded-cell threat model to the outbound language channel itself. That could require output-channel controls beyond ordinary auditing or capability gates, but the supplied evidence does not yet establish that the channel is reliable, covert, or operationally practical.
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queries asked of Scott's wikis
  • LLM token-choice covert channels and data exfiltration
  • steganography detection versus model output monitoring
  • sampling controls, token entropy, and reproducible decoding
  • agent security against hidden inter-agent communication
  • LLM watermarking and steganographic channel tradeoffs
  • covert-channel threat models for local and hosted models

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Evidence (2) — ⭐ canonical anchor

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🟧 hnShow HN: Steganeur – Hide secret messages in LLM-generated text (Rust)marcsnid30
🟧 echo.github ⭐The repository describes Steganeur as Rust software that hides messages in LLM token choices; its first full release was committed as “InitiMarc Snider——

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